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seddy · September 10th, 2008

this is realy huge:

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GENEVA - The world's largest particle collider passed its first major tests by firing two beams of protons in opposite directions around a 17-mile (27-kilometer) underground ring Wednesday in what scientists hope is the next great step to understanding the makeup of the universe.

After a series of trial runs, two white dots flashed on a computer screen at 10:26 a.m. (0826 GMT) indicating that the protons had traveled clockwise along the full length of the 4 billion Swiss franc (US$3.8 billion) Large Hadron Collider — described as the biggest physics experiment in history.

"There it is," project leader Lyn Evans said when the beam completed its lap.

Champagne corks popped in labs as far away as Chicago, where contributing and competing scientists watched the proceedings by satellite.

Five hours later, scientists successfully fired a beam counterclockwise.

Physicists around the world now have much greater power to smash the components of atoms together in attempts to learn about their structure.

"Well done, everybody," said Robert Aymar, director-general of the European Organization for Nuclear Research, to cheers from the assembled scientists in the collider's control room at the Swiss-French border.

The organization, known by its French acronym CERN, began firing the protons — a type of subatomic particle — around the tunnel in stages less than an hour earlier, with the first beam injection at 9:35 a.m. (0735 GMT).

Eventually two beams will be fired at the same time in opposite directions with the aim of recreating conditions a split second after the big bang, which scientists theorize was the massive explosion that created the universe.

"My first thought was relief," said Evans, who has been working on the project since its inception in 1984. "This is a machine of enormous complexity. Things can go wrong at any time. But this morning has been a great start."

He didn't want to set a date, but said that he expected scientists would be able to conduct collisions for their experiments "within a few months."

The collider is designed to push the proton beam close to the speed of light, whizzing 11,000 times a second around the tunnel.

Scientists hope to eventually send two beams of protons through two tubes about the width of fire hoses, speeding through a vacuum that is colder and emptier than outer space. The paths of these beams will cross, and a few protons will collide. The collider's two largest detectors — essentially huge digital cameras weighing thousands of tons — are capable of taking millions of snapshots a second.

The CERN experiments could reveal more about "dark matter," antimatter and possibly hidden dimensions of space and time. It could also find evidence of the hypothetical particle — the Higgs boson — which is sometimes called the "God particle" because it is believed to give mass to all other particles, and thus to matter that makes up the universe.

The supercooled magnets that guide the proton beam heated slightly in the morning's first test, leading to a pause to recool them before trying the opposite direction.

The start of the collider came over the objections of some who feared the collision of protons could eventually imperil the Earth by creating micro-black holes, subatomic versions of collapsed stars whose gravity is so strong they can suck in planets and other stars.

"It's nonsense," said James Gillies, chief spokesman for CERN.

CERN was backed by leading scientists like Britain's Stephen Hawking , who declared the experiments to be absolutely safe.

Gillies told the AP that the most dangerous thing that could happen would be if a beam at full power were to go out of control, and that would only damage the accelerator itself and burrow into the rock around the tunnel.

Nothing of the sort occurred Wednesday, though the accelerator is still probably a year away from full power.

The project organized by the 20 European member nations of CERN has attracted researchers from 80 nations. Some 1,200 are from the United States, an observer country that contributed US$531 million. Japan, another observer, also is a major contributor.

Some scientists have been waiting for 20 years to use the LHC.

The complexity of manufacturing it required groundbreaking advances in the use of supercooled, superconducting equipment. The 2001 start and 2005 completion dates were pushed back by two years each, and the cost of the construction was 25 percent higher than originally budgeted in 1996, Luciano Maiani, who was CERN director-general at the time, told The Associated Press.

Maiani and the other three living former directors-general attended the launch Wednesday.

Smaller colliders have been used for decades to study the makeup of the atom. Less than 100 years ago scientists thought protons and neutrons were the smallest components of an atom's nucleus, but in stages since then experiments have shown they were made of still smaller quarks and gluons and that there were other forces and particles

E.V. · September 10th, 2008

I am seriously not looking forward to their actual thing. this thing has 4 different ways of destroying the world!

seddy · September 10th, 2008

nono no.. this thats a misconception.. the worst that could happen is that this thing explodes, then it would leave one hell of a craitor in the gorund. and cause a radiation leak very smiliar to that of chernoble.

i was watching the special they had on teh history chennel. the scientitss say that this experiment is safe and nothing will happen that will destroy the earth, if those risks were real, then they would have never gotten the funding to make it.

the biggest gane form this would be a possible technology leap, we woudd experence here. very similar to what happened in the 1950's and 1990's

wonder what those leaps would be?

D ViiSiiON X · September 10th, 2008

I am glad the first test passed. Hopefully many more successful tests will prevail. Let's get some new technology going here.

IBeatSephiroth · September 11th, 2008

I heard about this on the radio. They were counting down to the end of the world and were asking people if it was the end of the world, what would they do. One man did a nudie run through a supermarket. Crazy

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E.V. · September 11th, 2008

Obviously none of you have ever been on cracked.com. On the top 5 ways technology could destroy the world, 4 of the 5 were something that scientists said this thing could cause, although they doubt it will happen. The fifth was nanobots.

seddy · September 11th, 2008

cracked.com.. oh yes a very reliable source..lol its like using the national enquierer as source for news as well..

this is something huge. its a big step in learning how the universe ahs come to be, how we became.. possibly learn how and why we evolved liek we have.

an X factor though is stephen hawking saying that this project will eb a bust, at the end of the day, when they are all done, they will be no closer to understaning teh universe than they were when they started..

stephen hawking knows his stuff... upon hearing him say that, makes me think this experiment will raise even more questions than answers.

E.V. · September 11th, 2008

cracked.com would be like NE except for the fact that...well...they give links to the news articles where the scientists say the stuff.

seddy · September 11th, 2008

oh. my bad on that then.. but yeah anything big that scientists plan, always has soem one trying to say it will end the world. i know one big issue they had in preperations were people saying they woudl be playing "god" and creating life and such..

technically that might eb true, the goal of this experiment is to find the "god" particle, a particle that..well mr. hawking explains liek this:

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The God particle is the nickname given to the theoretical Higgs boson, a particle thought to explain why some things are more massive than others. The Higgs is one of the holy grails of physics, though its existence has yet to be proven.

Lalaith · September 14th, 2008

New technology is always interesting and scary at the same time. It's exciting and thrilling all the stuff scientists are able to discover with their experiments, yet... once again,,, if something goes wrong I'm in Europe. So I'll go puff. lol Why am I still in Europe?

I hope it passes all the tests and nothing bad happens. I like living.